Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Re: Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Postby Range Rat » Tue May 08, 2018 12:22 pm

Ded2Journey wrote:RR,
Do you prefer to "feel" movements you're trying to make? Or to just trust that your leverage and pressures with take care of the movements all by themselves?


Gosh not sure. I think I watch them, like watching a movie play out in front and to the side of me. I don't necessarily do movements, but overall motions that have leverage and pressures inside- like the old motions create position argument. I do have wood-keys, and some other things I throw into the frying pan, but I just move the ball around in the sky the best I can. Let me briefly state my basic approach and you can decide between preference and trust.

What I do do that is different than others, and without going into deep detail as it's too complicated, is play with automated subconscious reactions. For instance, goat humping is an automatic subconscious level response to a stimulus, say perhaps too steep out of transition- it's automatic. So, I use that process to my advantage. For example, keeping the club head above and behind the hands out of transition can be easily accomplished by putting in more torso flexion than one had at address. It is almost impossible to cast and/or go steep IF torso flexion is increased, the subconscious will basically not allow it because it still wants to hit the ball.

I have a bunch of various platforms like that, along with others from Doyle's hitting on any part of a circle, to Norwood's claim the shaft does not move. Cheese deluxe.

Other than that, I don't have a clue actually. :lol:
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Re: Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Postby Range Rat » Tue May 08, 2018 1:07 pm

@ 3:33 Hat showing straight left leg with bent knee, his thoughts on Hogan, along with the other video in the thread. :)

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Re: Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Postby lagpressure » Tue May 08, 2018 1:52 pm

I couldn't agree more with Gregg when he talks about today's "arm swingers" at 4:10.
I think Gregg is the premier teacher of a swinging method. I can't imagine anyone in the world
I would recommend more for that kind of approach to swinging a golf club.

From a hitter's perspective, I think there is value in learning how to swing because it can be very beneficial to helping a hitter
slot the club through transition. Both hitters and swingers can share a sameness through transition.

I know Gregg also likes heavy gear which can also share a commonality with hitters.
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Re: Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Postby Range Rat » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:27 pm

Interesting look at a 'rotated waggle': a waggle off to the side, but as square as one can get, of Sergio. I love associated motion relationships, I think they can speak loudly about cohesion and connections that shine a light on vapor trails. As ye waggle.... 8-)
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