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Re: Feelings

Postby Range Rat » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:52 am

I think that may be John Cook? Hard to tell on my end. I get the impression that in the right picture of him the spine angle and weight movement is what is being looked at?

It reminds me a little of the hammer throwers that I mentioned over in the other thread. Hammer throwers do not want to bend forward at all coming down into the zone. Their spine angle is straightening to assist with countering the outward pull of the hammer ball by pulling it inward with the upper body.

Almost like deep sea fishing while sitting in a chair. When Moby Dick grabs the line and runs away from the boat, the person in the chair braces the feet on the chair pads down low, then pulls mightily backwards straightening the spine.

Like I mentioned on the other thread...I'm going to check this out more about losing spine angle....I like it and the possibilites it presents. :)
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Re: Feelings

Postby lagpressure » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:02 am

Commentators were talking about this concept while Peter Senior was in the hunt again at the US Senior Open, and again acknowledging him as one of the premier ball strikers out there.
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Re: Feelings

Postby Range Rat » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:07 pm

Played around today a lot with the spine angle and was kinda surprised I guess. Found a video of Senior in which the spine, with some pelvic assistance, is most certainly straightening with concurrent shoulder participation. I think Senior is maybe starting that release a little earlier than I was doing since his R elbow is a little more behind the hip than mine is, so I was feeling that release happen after contact with the ball.

Felt a little reverse Cish only at times, but not drastic, but one thing I did notice is how the right foot responds to this move if that release happens after contact versus prior to. However, since I was feeling it happening after contact, it was probably going on before contact like Senior does, I just wasn't able to really sense it fully until after contact.

The right foot, unlike Seniors action, was doing that Hogan toe scratch dance....I think for the first time really. And the R foot going forward was being felt as an oppositional force to the spine being more vertical and behind the center line axis, or pelvic area a touch during the release part. Good results...missle like.

I tell 'ya one thing...Senior just went to #2 on my great ball stiker list. :)

Found this one on YT which I thought was a good look at it.
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Re: Feelings

Postby jrich99 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:40 pm

Good stuff there. Certainly worth a look.
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Re: Feelings

Postby Range Rat » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:50 am

Anyone ever feel like in full action the intention is to "roll" the ball over the ground and how level shoulder rotation would be required to do that, and thereby letting the real loft of the club due its thing?

Sort of like in putting along with the accolade: he can really roll his rock.

Or is it "rock and roll". 8-)
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Re: Feelings

Postby Range Rat » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:24 am

Whoa....don't know the correct terminology, if it's called spinal straightening, or pelvic assisted spinal straightenting, but the bent right arm must have something to do with it in a related sense...just haven't comes to terms with what is assisting what in releasing in a technical sense but....

....was able to keep a bent R arm way past contact and leftward until it almost feels like the spine and pelvis work in concert to release the R arm. Don't know if that is technically what's happening, but the pressure through the ball was most evident.
Funny how long the R arm can remain bent with a tight elbow throught the zone. It really is a rip UP the plane!

This stuff is crazy good!
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Re: Feelings

Postby Range Rat » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:42 am

More feelings and thoughts from a great day.

For some reason the level turn of the shoulders through the zone- having a feeling of getting level left ( especially with the L shoulder ) and way behind me has this ratcheting association and feel between the shoulders, cupped left wrist, and the right arm, hand and forearm.

The hard and behind level movement of the L shoulder is what pops the cupped left wrist to the bowed position. Don't have to worry about the cup ....the level and hard left shoulder movement takes care of it.

Tried to find a logo that would capture the feel from an eagle eye view but closest I could find was ZZ Top, which really doesn't work that well as an image. I'll find one though as that feel is quite unique and I have seen that position orientation somewhere before but I just can't put my finger on it right now.

Don't know if RATcheting is the correct term here...but it works for me. :lol:

Searched for some ratchet logos that capture that feel but without luck so far. However, did find this on my search which will hopefully be on my Santa list. No more Arnold Palmer hitching the trousers routine. Sorry Arnie :lol:

http://www.ratchetbelt.com/
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Re: Feelings

Postby Paul C » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:56 am

[quote="Range Rat"]More feelings and thoughts from a great day.

For some reason the level turn of the shoulders through the zone- having a feeling of getting level left ( especially with the L shoulder ) and way behind me...

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Re: Feelings

Postby Range Rat » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:38 pm

Paul C wrote:Go southwest young man, southwest...


That's exactly what it is!!!....thanks Paul C. Hadn't thought about it in terms of direction like that. 8-)
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Re: Feelings

Postby twomasters » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:56 pm

Paul C wrote:
Go southwest young man, southwest...
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Plus they don't charge you a fee for your luggage :lol:
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