Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Re: Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Postby LesMurray » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:32 am

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Re: Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Postby Range Rat » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:42 am

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Re: Thoughts on Ben Hogan

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Re: Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Postby paradigm_shift » Mon May 20, 2019 10:32 am

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Question for all of you.

Is it harder to have a wide backswing if it is a flat backswing ?

Who has more width in the backswing ... Hogan or Bubba Watson ?
I realize that the flatter the backswing .. the less plane shift is needed to hit the ball.
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Re: Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Postby Range Rat » Wed May 22, 2019 7:38 am

I don't pay too much attention to that, both Bubba and Hogan attend to elbow plane when it counts which means more to me than the rest. Width is just having some extension from chest to hands and can be had either upright or flatter, so not not harder. Of course, my cheese can be moldy. :)
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Re: Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Postby Range Rat » Wed May 22, 2019 8:00 am

Some days when internet surfing I feel like I'm on the old game show called "Concentration", with Hugh Downs, where you had to match something currently viewed with something viewed in the past.

Was surfing the other day and saw this baseball drill preventing early extension done by a young player within the Rockies organization, I stopped dead in my tracks, I had seen this pose before, but where. :o

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Hogan clowning around, or was he, given the Hogan-Byrd connection.

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Re: Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Postby LesMurray » Thu May 23, 2019 11:48 am

paradigm_shift wrote:Wide-Narrow-Wide

Question for all of you.

Is it harder to have a wide backswing if it is a flat backswing ?

Who has more width in the backswing ... Hogan or Bubba Watson ?
I realize that the flatter the backswing .. the less plane shift is needed to hit the ball.


I worked with John at the Deck a few weeks ago. The Hogan backswing is very specific in how it loads the club. John gave me a drill to work on where we use the width in a specific manner. Best way to describe it is to think of whipping a belt or rope away from you, then back over your shoulder.
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Re: Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Postby k2baloo » Thu May 23, 2019 1:56 pm

You have to define width first. I think of it as the distance between the sternum and the butt of the club. By that definition, reducing how much the elbows bend is how you increase/maintain width. If you think of width differently, the answer could be different.
In the way I look at it, you can have great width regardless of swing plane.
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Re: Thoughts on Ben Hogan

Postby nfbandon » Sun May 26, 2019 12:24 pm

Lots of the old guys, Hogan included, pushed the clubhead into the ground a bit, as they started back. This created width as the hands actually moved before the clubhead. It also gave the clubhead energy and avoided the death move of sending hands out from the body and rolling the clubhead behind.

Nicklaus always said to imagine a razor on your arms at address and not to cut yourself during the takeaway.
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