Lag, lightbulb moments and videotape

Re: Lag, lightbulb moments and videotape

Postby lagpressure » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:27 am

Module #5 Student:

Two weeks ago, I think I had one of the biggest lightbulbs since enrolling ABS. I was playing a round and in the middle of it I remembered one of your posts that stated that only after P4 are the arms allow to actively participate in the swing (along those lines). I’ve been working on really preserving that pressure on both of my armpits through all my swing. So I decided to glue the upper arms to my torso and just concentrated on making the swing with my torso ( zero arm involvement) as if my hands (not the arms) where attached to my torso. My thought was to hit the ball with my right hand attached to the right shoulder and turn left level and on plane. Wow, what a difference in the compression.

I now realized that I was still actively and voluntarily firing with my arms as I was approaching impact and P4.

Now I am committed on applying armpits pressure from alignment and letting my torso drive my backswing and downswing (after mod 5 transition), accelerating post impact and releasing hands (not arms) to PV5.

Just wanted to share that! Thanks!
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Re: Lag, lightbulb moments and videotape

Postby Range Rat » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:08 am

lagpressure wrote:ABS student mastering the flattening of the shaft through transition.


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Not sure what maze I was in last February but this is top notch pursuit and work here, don't know how I missed it. It makes sense, to me anyway, and how I sense this dynamic is that top-notch pivot work and striking actually has two slots, one slot to transition, and the other slot finally formed at P3- when the stage is set to put a rotational smack upon the orb. I like the Trevino pants too. :)
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Re: Lag, lightbulb moments and videotape

Postby lagpressure » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:07 am

Mod 4 Student

I want to the range today and had a session of my lifetime. This was strange because I was extremely consistent. I hit about 100 balls and hit 98 of them perfect. The remaining two I shanked :)

At first I couldnt work out what I was doing differently to hit the ball so great. And then it hit me - my backswing felt much flatter. Previously I always made sure my backswing was steep as this is what I always heard, read and saw (I have not reached the respective ABS module yet) but today somehow my backswing was different, flat and felt very natural.

As a consequence, my right hip felt it didnt have to move as much, I felt. I dont know - maybe that was only what I felt. And also, into the follow through, I felt I was merely turning my belly, with my legs and hipsnot doing much, other then resisting and making sure I have something to turn against.

Strange. What am I asking..... can the backswing be, or feel, flat? Can golf swing feel like hip joints are not moving much, only the “belly”/ torso? Also - regarding setup - can it feel like I am sitting deep, with weight on my heels?

I think I want to play with Mod 4 some more, incorporate the feelings above and see if I still hit the lines.....

Thanks for your patience with me. I am slowly getting there!


Mickey Wright said "you can't swing too flat". I would agree with this assuming you are still flattening the shaft through transition. Doug Sanders
would be a good study. Generally speaking an outside to inside (flat) backswing is most helpful to achieve such an objective.

As far as the hips, it can be helpful to straighten the right leg on the backswing (not locked) to assure adequate range of motion. It is imperative to maintain a cohesive body tension throughout the swing as this is really the glue to keep it all together. On full shots, we want as much shoulder rotation as possible, both on the backswing and finish, but we can still strive to keep the lower body firm, structured and stable.
The center points of cohesive body tension are covered in the ABS Module work.

As far as weight transfer, it's better to have your weight back toward the heels than forward, but there is an advanced technique to work from the right heel backswing to the ball of the left foot into the downswing as was discussed by George Knudson. This move can aid in flattening the shaft through transition via a lateral weight shift.

Thank you John. My biggest realization has been that it is no help to THINK of the moves. You just have to drill and drill and it happens by itself. When I started hitting it well, I realized that my swing and my good shots feels nothing like what I thought it should feel. In fact, my swing now feels probably a complete opposite to what I thought was right.

I now also think that golf swing cant be taught the way teachers teach it on the range. I might be wrong. But I now think that one just has to do your drills and work it out that way.... The body needs to work it out through the drills. It may sound like a biased view but I mean it. It has to be worked out I think.
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Re: Lag, lightbulb moments and videotape

Postby lagpressure » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:41 pm

Module 5 student:

I am so happy with my progress. I am truly grateful for ABS.

And I do know my swing still needs much work. Nevertheless, I am already much much better compared to beffore I joined. In fact I could barely hit the ball back then. Now I hit beautiful blades from ~ 1960’s and begin to enjoy the game. And my collection of clubs, too! So happy.
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Re: Lag, lightbulb moments and videotape

Postby lagpressure » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:05 am

Module 8 Student:
I wanted to tell you that after all the work I have done on ABS principles for me personally
the thing that has made the most difference is the low left shoulder through and past impact.
Every time I overhook it or fat it, it is the result of a stalled left shoulder moving mostly upward.
That intent in my swing is the key to good shots for me period. I can't get same feeling by rotating
a high right shoulder through impact, I will lose shaft pressure that way. Has to be low left shoulder
rotating with the intention of having that shoulder behind my neck at impact!
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Re: Lag, lightbulb moments and videotape

Postby lagpressure » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:09 am

Module #5 Student:
I feel I am doing nothing with my hands during the backswing, particularly not raising them up. Miracuously, on a video they are still up on shoulder level at the end of my backswing

from top, I feel that body weight flows through the right heel, which (now) I think is crucial as this creates structure for later
- I feel I am hitting the ball somewhat from the side, if it makes any sense, not from the top.

I feel my torso turn is supported by pushing into that right hip & heel, which allows spine tilt to increase (weight transfer) and my turning left freely
- I feel my left foot is resisting while the above is being carried out. This I think is crucial.
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Re: Lag, lightbulb moments and videotape

Postby LesMurray » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:27 pm

lagpressure wrote:Module 8 Student:
I wanted to tell you that after all the work I have done on ABS principles for me personally
the thing that has made the most difference is the low left shoulder through and past impact.
Every time I overhook it or fat it, it is the result of a stalled left shoulder moving mostly upward.
That intent in my swing is the key to good shots for me period. I can't get same feeling by rotating
a high right shoulder through impact, I will lose shaft pressure that way. Has to be low left shoulder
rotating with the intention of having that shoulder behind my neck at impact!


Thanks for posting this. Helped me re-awaken the left side torso crunch. I'm finding it vital to maintain shaft flex through the shot.
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Re: Lag, lightbulb moments and videotape

Postby lagpressure » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:31 pm

Module 7 Student working on the new Hogan program.

Been working on the Hogan move you showed me pretty diligently.. been traveling quite a bit. With that said, I have played little golf yet still carded my lowest round ever...-2/69. Never have I hit the ball as good as I have been lately.

I’m trying hard to hit from “pocket to pocket” while riding the wall. I am also trying hard to get low into my left leg and my shoulder turn could likely use a bit more.

Anyhow those are my updates. There is so much I have to wonder about the more I get into the swing and review the vids I took on "the deck".
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Re: Lag, lightbulb moments and videotape

Postby lagpressure » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:38 am

John,
I've learned alot from you're website and played by far the best golf of my life with your set and first 3 mods.
I couldnt agree more with your site and ideas about equipment.
Thank you as always for your time and effort and helping me enjoy the game!
I fight every day to promote the classic game and gear.
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Re: Lag, lightbulb moments and videotape

Postby lagpressure » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:59 am

John,
Received the 56 Dynas, love them. I've been collecting random classic sets and just using clubs not set up properly for the last couple of years. Tinkering with my swing and lost my ballstriking.
This set up is what helped me develop to my best ever ballstriking. Now I feel again I can aim a bit left and hit it and it wont move left. Only stays straight or fades. That's the confidence builder.

Played a super quick 9 after 11 hour day no warm up or stretching. My 56 dynas 1940 Tommy Armour persimmons. Every fairway and green and no shots left.

Heres a couple of practice shots. 3. 7irons. And 2. 3 irons from 220. Not too bad.
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Thanks again for turning me on to classic clubs set up properly.
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