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Re: Right arm through impact

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:31 pm
by lagpressure
The whole ABS course is really about how to train to do this and have the option of taking advantage of the geometry of flat entry and flatter lie angles.

Unfortunately there is no swing thought or simple shortcut to make this happen. Flattening your lie angles will help, but you still need properly trained forearms to actively get the clubface back to the ball.. then you need to kill it off and hold shaft flex through and beyond impact via proper pivot action, development of ground force application and post impact pivot thrust.

You have to earn your stripes on this stuff. You don't just walk into a secret swing tip... and hang your hat on it.. not going to happen.

We have students here that have flattened their entry into P3 nearly 20 degrees over time. It is very doable.

Re: Right arm through impact

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:36 pm
by OrGolfGuy
lagpressure wrote:The whole ABS course is really about how to train to do this and have the option of taking advantage of the geometry of flat entry and flatter lie angles.

Unfortunately there is no swing thought or simple shortcut to make this happen. Flattening your lie angles will help, but you still need properly trained forearms to actively get the clubface back to the ball.. then you need to kill it off and hold shaft flex through and beyond impact via proper pivot action, development of ground force application and post impact pivot thrust.

You have to earn your stripes on this stuff. You don't just walk into a secret swing tip... and hang your hat on it.. not going to happen.

We have students here that have flattened their entry into P3 nearly 20 degrees over time. It is very doable.


I signed on with you quite a while ago and built the big impact bag, but where I go bad is when I make a fuller swing. My downswing sequence is way off, and I lose a lot of speed and power.

Also, I just bought Titlieist AP1's and don't want to go out and spend more money flattening clubs, as I don't think my new ones can be flattened that much, and my swing is a long way from flat anyways.

Re: Right arm through impact

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:09 pm
by lagpressure
My downswing sequence is way off, and I lose a lot of speed and power.


That's correct, because the downswing is going to be dependent upon what happens past lowpoint much more than before.
If you don't have the horse power through and beyond impact, no amount of effort will help much. Stay the course and you will be fine.

Re: Right arm through impact

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:08 pm
by Range Rat
First, a tease:
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A good article on power through the forearm's real axis of rotation, or ulna assist.
http://drummagazine.com/anatomy-of-drumming-its-not-all-in-the-wrist/

Reminds me of Hogan here- courtesy of ABS vault- having a loaded gun about to unleash the living daylights out of the club/shaft along arm's axis of rotation as described in the article.
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Saw the article and knew Lag, 2, and other ABS ballstrikers, enjoy forearm rotation stuff so thought I'd post it up... :)

Re: Right arm through impact

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:44 am
by k2baloo
Pretty amazing picture. I'm not sure I could even hit a ball from that position...

Re: Right arm through impact

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:36 am
by LesMurray
Not sure how many people follow Bradley over on his sight but he has a members-only side where he posts daily videos.

Last week he was doing a bunch of videos about the right arm and the 4:30 line. One of the best was about Hogan's rock skipping drill that really helped me in my transition feelings.

Basically, have your right arm and hand in a position to skip a stone as you hit the 4:30 line. This gets your hands out in front of you with good forearm rotation. The result is it keeps you from thrusting the right arm at the ball.

And Kyle, you'll get there.

Re: Right arm through impact

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:41 pm
by Range Rat
k2baloo wrote:Pretty amazing picture. I'm not sure I could even hit a ball from that position...


Not sure how tall you are Baloo but proportionally I have a practice device- 48" long iron Controller- on a 5'7" rat body allowing me to set my hands pretty low with the toe in the air a little. Having the toe in the air at address a little is ok because given the length, and how the club was made by the person gifting it to me, softened the tip and it toe droops almost perfect through the hit.
It is almost impossible to go steep with that sucker unless one is trying to do it on purpose, and by it sheer weight/length extinguishes any notion of lifting on the back move, so the natural sequence track with that appRATtus is, for me anyway, to rotate the club hard open going back, dropping the entire open enchilada from the top to near the right pocket, then rotate forearms HARD, and everything really from there as level as can be. It feels really slow and heavy but the ball motors along pretty smartly.

Haven't gone that route in a while but at the time seemed to make sense proceeding along that line to tap into what Lag was going on about- flat, heavy, open, stiff, forearm rotation, etc. Maybe you can make a similar silly club and see what happens, but I would think it would be incrementally longer than 48" for you if you are over 5'7"...which most people are. :lol: What that length for you would be is beyond me, have no idea, but that was my attempt to sense what Hogan may have felt and did from that location dynamic.