Lee Trevino

Lee Trevino

Postby lagpressure » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:34 am

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Re: Lee Trevino

Postby lagpressure » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:48 am

Hard to imagine a more "textbook" action working the golf club through the strike. P3, P4, PV5 spot on as far as capture frame positions created by Trevino's internal dynamics.

Sometimes I think it's interesting to view the swings of the greats as they get older, because while Lee is certainly still very strong here in is 70's, he is probably having to rely more upon technique than the athleticism he exhibited 40 years before. I think the same about Hogan also. I feel Hogan's swing was best refined later in his career.

So many key points here in Trevino's swing. First how open his clubface is at P3. The shaft very deeply slotted on the 4:30 line. Notice how level the shoulders rotate, and how his hips move in every frame while keeping good earth connection in his right foot. The club works left here better than when he was younger because he had to level out his rotation as he got older due to lower back problems created by the dipping right shoulder . Had he swung like this way when he was younger, he may have hit the ball longer.
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Re: Lee Trevino

Postby lagpressure » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:01 am

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It's fascinating to see how Lee gets the shaft slotted and working behind him. Very unique obviously and it's really for this
exact reason why I don't spend a lot of time preaching backswing swing plane or that a perfect set up is somehow going to get a golfer to arrive at a world class transition.

Trevino breaks all conventional rules here, yet if you follow the path of the clubhead, there is a beauty and logic to how it works into a flow from a deliberate manipulation of the hands. Furyk takes a very similar route, just more upright before it slots. Hubert Green took a similar path back also, but from the hands not working so far out and away from his body.

Module 6 students take note of how the transition works here being fiercely initiated by the lower body action. Top stuff.
Great Module 5 action here also. Critical really to making this work.
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Re: Lee Trevino

Postby lbcyp » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:25 pm

Its amazing how well he still swings it. Ive spent alot of time looking at his swing. My friend gave me some footage of him hitting balls back in the 80s from all different angles and he was talking though the whole thing, and two main things i remember from it is that he talked about how his leftside never slows down through the shot, and it actually speeds up through impact and he thought that's one of the reasons he was so accurate. And he also mentioned that he could bring the club from his finish position back to the ball and the face would still be square and not rolled over and he said that he didnt think many players could do that.
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Re: Lee Trevino

Postby NRG » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:43 pm

In that video he doesn't appear to be hitting the ball out to the right anywhere as much as you would expect and the ball position looks more to the left. Any thoughts on why that may be?
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Re: Lee Trevino

Postby lagpressure » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:55 pm

For one, we don't know exactly where he is aiming or what his shot shape intent was... and the position of the camera would affect where we see the ball taking off. The further the camera is positioned to the right of where it is now.. the farther right the ball would appear to take off from. How far the camera is from the ball and the type of lens also have an affect.

Another thing to remember is that if the camera is set up more toward his heels, then a more lofted club would appear to start more right than a long iron or driver. If the camera is placed on the flight line they would appear basically the same. If the camera is placed right of the flight line, then the opposite would be true.

I would speculate that with a more level shoulder rotation, he may not be aiming as far left as he used to.

It's a good question.
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Re: Lee Trevino

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Re: Lee Trevino

Postby SlamminSam2 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:20 am

It would be great to see that footage that your friend gave you if possible. That sounds interesting. I agree with you too Lag about swings as they get older. I think that when you start taking some of the speed out of them you can see their intentions more clearly. We should be trying to find out as much as possible about Trevino while he is still around. He really doesn't have that much stuff out there compared to say Nicklaus or Player and yet he was a more consistent striker than anyone.
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Re: Lee Trevino

Postby nicelikejohnny » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:55 am

Back in the early 1990's I was able to watch Trevino play quite a bit at the Transamerica Senior Tour Event In Napa(Silverado).
He absolutely had control of his golf ball. Pretty amazing. The guy just hit bullets all day. I expected to see him hit all fades and he really worked the ball around in all directions.
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Re: Lee Trevino

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