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Re: Insight - Keeping hands out in front (?)

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:40 pm
by lagpressure
twomasters wrote:
stevemcgee99 wrote:"Out front" there really looks like it's all caused by forearm rotation. Am I right about that?


Yes... the more the arms/hands feel out the more forearm rotation becomes available and the more wristcock can be built in too


Do you think keeping the hands extended far from the body both on the backswing and downswing is a similar feeling?

Re: Insight - Keeping hands out in front (?)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:44 am
by LesMurray
Here's another good video from Bradley speaking to the hands being out front.



My take from this is the more we can be bowing to the 4:30 line and the more we can get the club on the tabletop with forearm rotation then the more the hands will automatically work out in front of us.

Re: Insight - Keeping hands out in front (?)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:00 pm
by Range Rat
Spot on video from Twomasters. As soon as he got to the point of saying "out is actually down" I immediately thought of Jackie Burke Jr. and Steve Elkington on the range working on the back swing. Burke said, and Elk agreed, some of the best players ever moved the club away in and up, so it's not a big leap to sequence the reversal with out and down.

Re: Insight - Keeping hands out in front (?)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:21 pm
by twomasters
Good imagery of the video posted above-
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Re: Insight - Keeping hands out in front (?)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:49 am
by paradigm_shift
I’ve worked with Bradley and used to pinch my right knee inwards to act as a post in the backswing. This would consequently have my upper body leaning forward and my weight would be on the forward part of my feet.

My left armpit would act as a clamp in the backswing and zero space there would be created there. Without the space in the left armpit at transition my right elbow wouldn’t be able to fall inwards of my right hip. A nightmare of inconsistency ensued.

Keeping my weight predominantly on my heels, an upright torso and naturally hanging arms at address has made ‘getting the hands out in front’ like the Hogan photo much more natural in the downswing.

Re: Insight - Keeping hands out in front (?)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:27 am
by LesMurray
Bradley just put this out yesterday


Re: Insight - Keeping hands out in front (?)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:39 pm
by paradigm_shift
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBJA9YGCt-S/


This is the move Lag and Grady respectively disagree on.

Re: Insight - Keeping hands out in front (?)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:39 pm
by Range Rat
Not sure about the extent of the disagreement, but not a big fan of what that young lady is doing, but not sure either if GG has something in mind further down the road with her and this might be an intermediary step toward that end. Even though he is saying don't pull, I would think that instruction could bleed into getting too much weight left too soon and essentially dragging the club too far behind the pivot. I think it better to compress down into the right knee while coalescing with the slot instead of turning away from the knee as she is doing and leaving the slot behind- forcing the club to play catch up instead of rerouting the club from the slot.

Just me though. :)

Re: Insight - Keeping hands out in front (?)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:01 pm
by paradigm_shift
Disregard my post. I ignorantly didn’t realize that this has been discussed before.

Re: Insight - Keeping hands out in front (?)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:28 am
by nfbandon
No worries about getting on left leg too soon Rat, GG teaches the Snead squat.