The Masters Complete Final Round Coverage

Re: The Masters Complete Final Round Coverage

Postby kirkschwart » Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:12 am

i agree on the balls but i also blame the tour vans, those guys switch out drivers way too much imo. they claim they "heart" their taylor made's but where's the love?

i watched the special with seve before the telecast, and i think he played that black persimmon for over a span of a decade if not longer.

all the great drivers played a particular driver for a long time. even with a junky frying pan, they could learn alot more shots if they had some
familiarity with the club. not as much as persimmon or even smaller heads, but still some more variety.

i still don't
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Re: The Masters Complete Final Round Coverage

Postby lagpressure » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:04 am

Tough question, but i'll have a go. Number 1 is the ball. Its hard to work. Ive never seen so many balls in the pine needles on 13 as ive seen of late. Seems like its too hard to shape around that corner. The hall of famers get lost in the crowd with this ball. With the balata, you had to control your spin. It was a subtle move to bend it 20 yards around 13. The greats had a huge advantage, being able to shape it both ways, as well as trajectory, higher or lower at will. Now that art is lost. Hitting 300 is ho hum. they all hit it 300, Wedges go 150, so great ball strikers get lost in the crowd.


The ball is a good point.

When did we ever see a guy spin the ball back on #10 or even #12 for that matter? Instead of having to land the ball on the first 3rd of the green.. to allow for a bit of skip and bounce... now they have the whole green... so it's just another target golf event. All the nuances are gone the really separated the good from the great. So the ball, and the the trajectory of the shot coming into the greens are vital..

What else?
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Re: The Masters Complete Final Round Coverage

Postby lagpressure » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:09 pm

Standing on the first tee, I imagined how nervous Hanson is probably feeling.. but it must feel like a big safety net looking down at the frying pan, not having to worry about sky popping it up... or sending a ball way off target with a toe or heel strike. It's just got to be a lot easier than with the classic persimmons the greats won with. You simply don't have to be as good.
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Re: The Masters Complete Final Round Coverage

Postby Dukeman » Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:05 pm

As minimal as it is, I think the "first cut" has made a difference. Every major has a dark horse every now and then (Larry Mize), but historically great players have tended to win the Masters more than they win other majors (Tom Watson with 5 Opens being a glaring exception). I think when the great players got off line in the Masters, they were able to manufacture a shot to get to the green. They could hit their ball cleanly and control it. The lesser ball strikers couldn't do that...or at least not as well. Today, with even minimal rough, neither the best ball strikers nor the bottom of the field really know for sure where the ball is going when they're out of the fairway. The talent advantage is negated. The winner becomes more of a toss-up decision.

Contrast that with the US Open. You see numerous dark horse champions....Orville Moddy, Jack Fleck, Andy North, etc. You don't see (modern) players winning 4,5, or 6 US Opens. I think it's at least partially because once the players get in the rough (and they all get there eventually), Jack Nicklaus and Jack Squat are both limited to the same shot....wedge it back to the fairway.

Check out some of the champions since Augusta has been thoroughly Tiger Proofed....Immelman, Z Johnson, Schwartzel. We're starting to see more good (not historically great) players win more often. Augusta is becoming more like the US Open and we're starting to see more US Open dark horse type winners.
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Re: The Masters Complete Final Round Coverage

Postby lagpressure » Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:19 pm

Dukeman,
I could not agree more..

The Masters was unique in that fashion.. and just incredible that they were able to design a golf course that really did exactly that. Why try to change or fix something that was working so perfectly?

It saddens me really to think there is no longer such an event on the planet anymore. Very sad.
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Re: The Masters Complete Final Round Coverage

Postby freddiec » Fri May 04, 2012 10:53 am

Just watched the final round of 85 Masters, fast fwd it a little thru some, but watched all the action. Thanks for posting it here!
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Re: The Masters Complete Final Round Coverage

Postby Craig Toone » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:26 am

just woke up after two gruelling 14hr night shifts. Perfect antidote for a too tired to beat the bag sunday

thanks for posting, just got to the point where Couples on 16 goes "oh sh&%" that tickled me

there is just something magical about the sunday back 9 at Augusta

If any tournament has the influence and the grit to introduce a restricted ball then its The Masters. it'd be the step change the game so sorely needs
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Re: The Masters Complete Final Round Coverage

Postby Craig Toone » Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:47 pm

For any lovers of the Masters check out youtube channel cpallos who has uploaded every final day couverage from 1986 to '06..... great stuff

Just watching 1997.... its clear the moment Faldo hands Woods his jacket the power game dawns :(
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Re: The Masters Complete Final Round Coverage

Postby LCGEEK » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:31 am

I just watched the first hour and getting to the good part...and the player froze. I refreshed but how do you fast forward the player...I need to get back to Strange about to hit his second at 13 :)

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Re: The Masters Complete Final Round Coverage

Postby lagpressure » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:13 am

Remember that if you hit the pause button on the flash player, you have to then hit the play button to restart.
If you hit the stop button, it goes back to the beginning.

Best to let it load for a while before watching the stream.
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