87-88 Wilson Fluid Feel Bending and reshafting.

87-88 Wilson Fluid Feel Bending and reshafting.

Postby truenorth » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:03 pm

So the clubs I have arriving in a few days to replace my....uggh...Ping Karsten III's are 87-88 Fluid feels. First question is does anyone know how soft the forgings are? Will they handle a big bend? Next how hard will it be to reshaft them later? Currently stiff shafts (guessing s300?) in them. In other words should I reshaft before bending? Final question, for reshafting I hear they are a .355 taper tip. Would it be a good idea to bore to .370 parrellel? Thanks in advance and thank you Lag for the best golfing site around!
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Re: 87-88 Wilson Fluid Feel Bending and reshafting.

Postby xsmith » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:22 pm

Truenorth, I have been wondering some of the same things. I have not yet bent any clubs, so I have been wondering how much I can go. I have a set of Mizuno MP 14s that are really upright, so I don't know how much is too much. They have everything you want but the lie angle. I have purchased many other sets and they all have the .355 taper tip so I have decided that I am not going to bore them out at this point as I believe that the x100 .355 tapered shaft will be stiff enough for me. In the future maybe not, but for now yes.
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Re: 87-88 Wilson Fluid Feel Bending and reshafting.

Postby truenorth » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:14 pm

The one thing I do know is that with any forged club you are safe to at least two degrees. Also if I remember correctly the Mizuno's haven't gone quite as upright as say, a Titelist forging. Not sure which time frame this happened but I remember seeing a few posts about it somewhere else. Unfortunately for me I already play a few clubs with xstiffs in them and I wish I had them tipped a couple inches. Must be the 500 lb or more woodstoves I have to carry around every day haha. Don't worry, it's a two man job....Anyway back on topic. As far as shafts go I have actually entertained the idea of reshafting a practice club with rebar or ridiculous tipping amounts so I am probably not the one to talk to about that. I suppose it should be too hard to just ream it to parallel instead of overboring to .370, but then again without a drill press and a jig you can hurt yourself pretty bad. The 1/2" Makita is the most dangerous tool on the jobsite! Anyway, could one of you experienced club builders shed some light on this please?
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Re: 87-88 Wilson Fluid Feel Bending and reshafting.

Postby truenorth » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:20 pm

I do remember Lag saying the modern club he broke while trying to bend it was a forged Mizuno, but pretty sure in that same post he said two degrees is ok.
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Re: 87-88 Wilson Fluid Feel Bending and reshafting.

Postby NRG » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:30 pm

They should be fine for bending, but no guarantees, sometimes clubs snap.

If they have stiff shafts, then I would just play them as they are and see how you like them, getting the old Wislon shafts out can be a bigger job than you would think. I wouldn't start reboring stuff to .370 unless its a last resort, you will need a pillar drill and probably go through a load of drill bits getting it done.
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Re: 87-88 Wilson Fluid Feel Bending and reshafting.

Postby lagpressure » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:49 am

I talked to Barkow the other day.. it was his club I broke and it was not a Mizuno... it was a Taylor Made forged blade. Newer and very brittle. So Mizuno may be fine. I have bent a couple Mizuno sets and from what I remember, the difficulty was more in getting the bit of offset out of them as they had very short necks from what I recall.
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Re: 87-88 Wilson Fluid Feel Bending and reshafting.

Postby truenorth » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:59 am

Ok I must have had a hole in my memory about the Mizuno. I will definitely play these irons for awhile before I start going crazy. Half the fun of having unassuming gear is playing it better than guys with new custom stuff, even if that doesnt happen often yet because I am still a golfing infant :). Most of my concern with the reshafting was how hard it would be to reshaft later and yes I have heard the nightmares about Wilson reshafting. Maybe in the future I will think about hard stepping a set and leaving the short irons a touch softer. Thanks for the replies guys.
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