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Moe's Clubs

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:05 am
by IanB
Recently visited Royal Ashburn golf club not far from Oshawa in Ontario.
Next to the trophy cabinet there they have a display in honor of Moe and a set of his clubs display.
I will get some pics today but Ive never seen so much lead on a clubhead. They were a topflight model, a slight cavity in the back which was almost completely filled with lead. Goodness knows what the swingweight or overall weight must have been!! The grips were large and deeply grooved as people have discussed here before. The shocking thing is the quantity of lead the ENTIRE rear of the clubhead was covered!!!

Re: Moe's Clubs

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:42 am
by lagpressure
Moe used heavy gear as many of the other great strikers did. The reason for this has to do with acceleration more than anything.
It's much easier to accelerate something at a lower rate but over a longer distance and span of time if it is heavier. Light clubs are too easy
to accelerate quickly from the top which results in a quick end of acceleration halfway down. This leads to a loss of shaft flex and a loss of feel
and pressure (lagpressure) in the hands.

It's hard to accelerate a heavy club quickly from the top. This is a good thing. We want to be accelerating the club through the strike, not from the top to halfway down.

Secondly, the heavier clubhead is much more stable through the strike, resists deceleration better, and compresses the ball better.

This is the right concept for controlling the golf ball as far as setting up your gear. A concept that is basically totally lost in the modern era of velocity obsessed players and equipment companies.

Re: Moe's Clubs

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:25 am
by k2baloo
Excited to see some pics!!

Re: Moe's Clubs

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:47 pm
by IanB
Here are the pics, I dont know why one club isint covered in lead

Re: Moe's Clubs

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:27 am
by paradigm_shift
Very cool photos! Thanks!

Re: Moe's Clubs

PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:42 pm
by lagpressure
The best use for a cavity back iron is to fill the cavity with lead. :lol:

Re: Moe's Clubs

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:46 am
by k2baloo
I've heard Moe say in multiple places he liked his clubs E-3 swing weight, but I am curious what the overall dead weights were.

I'm also curious exactly how large the grips were in comparison to standard, midsize, and jumbo grips. I've heard different things and it seems this may have changed when he was older.

Re: Moe's Clubs

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:09 pm
by lagpressure
When I knew Moe on the late 1980's, he had these wrap on grips that he could take on and off. They were some kind of rubber or synthetic material like rubber were about 3/4 inches wide and very thick, and he would wrap them onto the club but leave a space in between the wrap so his skin could sink down into the cracks. The edges of the wraps were not rounded off as if a 90 degree angle were cut on a 1/4 strip of rubber. He had some kind of stickum he used to hold the wraps down. I remember them being red and black. Just great feeling grips.

Re: Moe's Clubs

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:00 pm
by Hot Soup
Is there anything available that is similar to those grips? They almost look like tennis grips, except seem to be rubber.

Re: Moe's Clubs

PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:41 pm
by lagpressure
Hot Soup wrote:Is there anything available that is similar to those grips? They almost look like tennis grips, except seem to be rubber.


Nowadays, I would think you would just have to improvise something. No reason it could not be done though.