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want to try and make a pole shaft driver?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:39 am
by IanB
Hey there guys,

I quite fancy the idea of trying to make a pole shafted driver.

I have a few persimmon heads doing nothing just bought these heads on ebay.

What Id like to do is put in a gamma fire insert and a pole shaft.
I know the pole is a one iron shaft but is it a taper or a parallel?
Also would you think this would ok for me as a 51 year old M5 student?

Kindest, IanB

Re: want to try and make a pole shaft driver?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:22 am
by LesMurray
Nice heads - what model and year are those?

Re: want to try and make a pole shaft driver?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:33 am
by IanB
They are Mac Tommy Armour 693's

Re: want to try and make a pole shaft driver?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:37 am
by LesMurray
Looking sweet - I have a set of 653's that are just wonderful. I wish I had a swing to match them ;)

Re: want to try and make a pole shaft driver?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:47 am
by nfbandon
IanB,

Just contact John or Mike and they can instruct you. I would like to do the same thing so let me know how it turns out.

693 is a classic head. You need to get some neumann leather grips to finish off the clubs just right. :)

Re: want to try and make a pole shaft driver?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:24 pm
by Mashie72
Hey Ian,

I don't think age is that much of an objection. I do agree with Grady that it might be more expensive but well worth it if you go with John or Mike. My guess is that it is a parallel shaft and need to be very careful with the neck since I am betting that the shaft diameter will be larger. IMHO they are a lot of work anyway if correctly flattening the lie.

Maybe Mike has an early version prototype lying around that had too much loft for John 's liking and perhaps perfect for you?

Re: want to try and make a pole shaft driver?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:05 pm
by mdrretired
Ian emailed me and I provided some info for him about shafts. One way to go is to find an Apex 5 but they are rare. Lag and I have used a Ping 1 or 2 iron shaft from early models (Eye 2 and earlier) as those were X flex. I suspect that a Rifle 7.5 or even an X flex TT would work too but have not used one in a pole yet. You will need to be careful with the extension to get to 43.5" so make sure that there is as much extension inside the shaft as outside. I encourage you to go ahead and convert a good persimmon or even a laminated head but it may be good to experiment on a less classic head (than the 693) first. If you have not done a re-bore then save the 693 until you have some experience. IMHO, the 693 is one of the 3 or 4 best of the MacGregor heads (693, 945, M-85, 653 and many others). A Penna or Orlimar head usually have thick necks and are good first project clubs and usually not too expensive. Good luck on the Gamma Fire insert - pretty rare.

Re: want to try and make a pole shaft driver?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:29 pm
by IanB
Thanks for the info Im going to do it on a Cleveland Classic to start but I have a thing about those 693's with an oil rub finish with a nice leather grip and a gamma fire insert.
I have done a few like that before but just with trimmed x100 so the shaft diam wasn't an issue. Here are a few I have done before.

Re: want to try and make a pole shaft driver?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:13 pm
by IanB
Just to be clear those DON'T have pole shafts in them just regular wood shafts tipped x100's

Re: want to try and make a pole shaft driver?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:36 pm
by mdrretired
Nice work - A smaller tip diameter is safer but you can do it with most iron shafts if you are careful though .355 is better than .370 for obvious reasons. You will do well.